Does Shakespeare Always Get What He Wants?

Does Shakespeare Always Get What He Wants?

Posted on 04. Apr, 2011 by Tim Stoner in Articles, Blog, Love Wins

 

I have not counted all the questions in Love Wins but I did do a cursory pass through the first chapter and counted close to 60. It would be interesting to ask the copy editor how many question marks lie between those 198 pages. There are many, and this is not necessarily a bad thing. Rabbis ask lots of questions. Philosophers are defined by the questions they ask. More often than not, Jesus responds to inquiring minds not with an answer but another question. And, come to think of it, the first words out of the mouth of the serpent came in the form of an insidious, sly, unexpected interrogatory, as well.

The lesson? (speaking of interrogatories): all questions are not created equal. Some are helpful while others are designed to lead you away from light and life into death and destruction. In Love Wins, I have no reason to think that the authorial intent is for ill. Bell invites the reader to look at old answers in new ways. Bell wants to shake people free from a mindless assent to ancient creeds, stodgy dogmas, constricting religious mantras.

And this is not bad.

More than three decades ago I was a Freshman in Intro to Philosophy. My acerbic professor was a die-hard Calvinist. Despite his unwavering commitment to Reformed theology he made it his singular mission to undermine all our nice convenient assumptions, even the ones that happened to be true. He wanted to slap us awake. Dr. Grier succeeded brilliantly. The majority of those who paid attention in class left that institution with a sturdy commitment to what became known as the doctrines of grace. But he shook the heck out of us first. We had to survive boot camp for the mentally and spiritually soft and flabby.

Good questions do that.

I think Bell asks good questions. In the middle of the book he devotes a whole chapter to one of his better ones. “Does God Get What God Wants?” On the surface this appears to be a simple, straightforward question with a rather obvious answer: God is God therefore God gets whatever He wants. The positive response bursts from the mouth almost before the interrogatory is affixed to the last word. But as the assent dies on the lips a niggling thought interrupts: but does God want sin, and death and evil? Does God want Hell?

God being God–with the automatic corollary following hard at its heels that His desires are invariably fulfilled–leads one to wonder, who then wants the truly awful things that have gone on since the Garden? Beginning with the goodness of God as a starting point we conclude rightly that He does not want sin. He hates it. Who then wants it?

Satan.

So do we live in a universe with two competing powers, one getting the good He wants and the other getting the evil he wants? If you stop and think about this cosmology for just a minute you realize that, if this is true, neither is getting what he wants. Since there is evil everywhere, the good God is clearly not getting what He wants, but given the prevalence of goodness, truth and beauty, neither is his arch nemesis. So, who gets what he wants?

Bell states categorically that God most definitely, surely and without question gets what God wants. Anything less makes Him out to be pathetic and inept. Bell is thinking specifically about God’s declaration that He “wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth” (I Tim. 2:3). If this is what God wants, and He is great, Bell wonders, how great is He? Is this God “great enough to achieve what God sets out to do, or kind of great, medium great, great most of the time, but in this, the fate of billions of people, not totally great. Sort of great. A little great. (LW, 97-98).

It’s a fair question.

If God wants everyone to be saved and God is God, does that not lead to the conclusion that all will be saved? Anything less, Bell argues, means that God fails and human sin prevails. It means that God would have to take the stage with Mick Jagger and “shrug God-sized shoulders and say, ‘You can’t always get what you want’” (LW 103). And that, for a host of reasons, could never be.

This is a foundational premise of Bell’s book. It drives his conclusion that since God is neither helpless, powerless or impotent, and “doesn’t give up until everything that was lost is found,” God’s love ultimately and finally triumphantly wins (LW, 101). Yet, to be honest, Bell does not categorically paint himself into the “universalist” corner. He hints, suggests, winks and nods, but he never directly and positively answer the ultimate question: “Will everybody be saved, or will some perish apart from God forever because of their choices?” He leaves the answer unresolved because he believes a definitive answer is impossible. It is a tension “we are free to leave fully intact” (LW, 115).

The reason he rejects the “U” label is because he wants to leave the door open. God gets what He wants because love wins. Yet, paradoxically, there is still the real possibility that “we can have what we want” (LW, 119). We can choose Hell, which is “our refusal to trust God’s retelling of our story” (LW, 170). Despite these careful caveats, again, just being honest, the pervasive implication throughout the book, beginning with the title, is that God is great and good enough to insure that somehow, sometime, in some way His love will not go unrequited. There are good and convincing reasons to expect that, at the end, all people will “experience this vast, expansive, infinite, indestructible love that has been [theirs] all along” (LW, 198).

Granted, there is an almost sensuous tug to those words. It enchants like the alluring song of those mythic sirens that drew unwary seamen to shipwreck on the rocky coasts of their flowery island. And the only way to break its spell is to question the question: Is it true that since God wants all to be saved and He gets everything He wants, all will be saved?

Those much smarter than I will tell you that questions about God’s will have been pondered by many theologians, for many years. The best answers point out the difference between what God desires and what He decrees. These are two parallel but distinct realities. God’s decrees govern what is and will be on a primary causal level, and direct—without coercion–what happens on the secondary causal level, where you and I live, in such a way that allows for human dignity and authentic choice—free will, if you will.

And speaking of will that brings up Shakespeare. On a primary causal level, Will writes his brilliant sonnets. He invests pulsating energy into his characters. He breathes his passion, fury and longing into them, and they come to life. As any novelist will tell you, the better the writing, the less control you have over what the characters choose to do. This sounds ridiculous on the face of it. After all, you are the one tapping on the keyboard. Of course you are manipulating every word, including the muscular reactions and gestures of everyone in the story. Your will must rule. Oddly, the reverse is the case.

The best characters sometimes surprise the stuffing out of you. They really do say the darndest things. And they go down paths you never expected. When you pour your blood into them these creatures made up out of your own imagination take on personality, a dignity that is nowhere more evident than in their “free” will.

Is Will scratching his inked quill across parchment paper? Is Will directing what is going on in his play? Are his characters functioning along the lines he is ultimately decreeing? The answer to all these is yes.

But on the level of the parchment where the characters have come to life, are they deciding and responding authentically and freely? The better the story, the more emphatic the yes. Looking at it from the perspective of the author (primary causality), Shakespeare gets what he wants. Every letter is what he wants, and every action is what he has ordained. Yet from Romeo and Juliet’s vantage point (secondary causality), they are doing exactly as they please. Nobody is forcing them to fall in love and start a bloody feud. Nobody is making them take poison or stab themselves on an altar.

This analogy, like all analogies breaks down. Nothing we do takes God by surprise. He sees the end from the beginning. That includes every word on our tongue and every decision we make. He is also the initiator of salvation, giving faith and repentance as a gift. But, this is all on the authorial level. On the creaturely plane, despite what the Author knows and wants for us, we go our own merry way choosing what seems best in our own eyes, free from all constraint and imperious authorial control. As Augustine would say, we are completely free to choose what we love and what we love is sin.

If Shakespeare were perfectly loving and good, Hamlet might very well look up at him out of the pages on which he broods, and declare, “I have it on good authority that you are loving and good. Will not your perfectly loving plan win out in the end? After all you are the Great Bard, are you not?”

Sharpening his quill, Will would properly respond, “Yes, tis true. I am and I desire for you all the happiness in this great, wide beautiful world. But alas, I’m afraid what I fervently wish does not compel your choice. You will do what you will do. I cannot force you to dance a jig when what you really pine for is death.”

Hamlet being of a philosophical bent would counter: “But you are holding the quill, confound it!” To which Will replies, “Yes, in truth, but you are the one living the story.”

God desires the salvation of all, true indeed. Man prefers to save himself, evidently enough. God is writing the story, but we are living it. So, the answer to Bell’s simple question is neither as simple nor as categorical as he assumes.

God is so great that He accomplishes everything He decrees, and every detail of it is perfectly loving. Yet He does not get what He desires. After all, God wanted Adam and Eve to live in Edenic perfection forever. But they chose to exercise their freedom against God’s will and were cursed. God’s desires are contingent on the wills of creatures He has invested with all the love and weight and significance He is capable of. And that is a lot. It is a weight of glory that is almost impossible to bear.

But let’s ask one more question. It is the question behind the question. It is the reason why Bell gets it so wrong. What is it that God really wants? What desire drives Him and the storyline of every story that has ever been lived? Is the Author’s ultimate and supreme goal for his Story that of the salvation of all people?

Am I the chief end of God? Asking the question answers it doesn’t it?

This Loving God has one supreme affection. It is not what Bell assumes. It is not what so many others with him assume who strain and kick at the sharp edges of the Gospel story. God’s great, primary passion is not the happiness of His creatures. It is for Himself. He is supremely glorious, supremely beautiful, infinitely perfect in His wisdom, majesty and splendor. The best that the fiery seraphim in heaven can come up with is the enthralled, repetitive tripartite chant: holy, holy, holy. Of course, this glorious Being loves Himself above all. There is no one more worthy. No one holds a candle to Him.

Wisdom is to love, cherish and enjoy that which most deserves it. And God is Wise as well as loving. He is the source of Wisdom and is its boundless repository. So out of this undiminished, free-flowing fount, He loves Himself perfectly. And that means infinitely and eternally. His aim, first, is that His glory fill the earth as the waters cover the sea.

This is why the great good news declared by those with beautiful feet on the mountains is not “You are forgiven!” or “All will be saved!” but “Your God reigns!” (Is. 52:7). This is why the first commandment is a prohibition against placing any other god above Yahweh, and why Ezekiel repeatedly states that God is jealous for His holy name above all things. And this is also why he asserts (almost 60 times) that everything God is about to do in the earth is so that His people will come to know that “I am the Lord.”

Jesus, the perfectly obedient Son, makes this priority explicit a few hours before His death. When the last supper is over he prays to His Father: “Glorify your Son that your Son may glorify you.” He then declares that He has given eternal life to all those the Father has given Him and turns His attention back to His Father: “I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do” (Jn. 17:1-5).

Though we seem to miss the point, none of the apostles did. Paul, Peter, Jude and John punctuate their letters with the exclamation: “To Him be glory forever!” The last book begins with John’s dedication: “to Him who loves us. . . to Him be glory and power for ever and ever!” (Rev. 1:6). When John is allowed entrance into the mysterious activities before the throne of God he hears “every creature in heaven and earth and under the earth on the sea” singing: “To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever!” (Rev. 5:13).

And when the story reaches its climax there is a New City prepared for God’s People. But what makes it significant is not its citizens. It is given a name that forever will celebrate its unique glory: “The Lord is There” (Ez. 48:35), while what eternally shines from it is the glory of God (Rev. 21:11).

So, does God get what He wants?

If by this we mean are the Author’s desires for His creatures carried out of necessity, the answer is no. But, if we are asking instead, will God get the eternal glory He wants from a passionate, holy bride who has voluntarily chosen Him above all rivals, the answer is unequivocally yes.

So, does love win? Of course it does—God’s love for Himself is a thunderous, irresistible wave of sovereign power that crushes and cows Satan and all his hosts. It triumphs over all who embrace it as well as all who resist it. God is eternally glorified by those who worship Him with full hearts and by those who refuse His love and are justly condemned to be separated from His love forever.

Either way, God’s love for Himself wins.  

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13 Responses to “Does Shakespeare Always Get What He Wants?”

  1. Tim

    04. Apr, 2011

    Questions. Good questions or bad ones are so important in helping a student learn both how to think & to grasp what is essential for truth to be understood & held onto in the midst of the agonies of this present age.

    That same professor so many years ago also was wise enough to declare he would NOT answer moot questions. Thus no matter the questioner, a moot question was a voice unanswered.

    It is sad to realize a great communicator in this era now frames his conversations with questions which are nearly or completely moot.

    Thank you Timothy, for declaring truth & not becoming bewitched by the dance of words or questions.

  2. Esther

    05. Apr, 2011

    Once again, fantastic! I sure do wish your publisher would OK another book. God has given you great wisdom to see things more objectively, I believe… as opposed to getting blindly passionate about one certain form of theology. I appreciate the careful contemplation that clearly goes into all that you write.

    These are all things that I have been contemplating and I think you articulated all that God was trying to share with me.

  3. Nate

    05. Apr, 2011

    What a great way to start a Tuesday morning! Good stuff Tim!

  4. David Beelen

    05. Apr, 2011

    Tim,
    You have it just right. The beginning and foundation is God’s glory….and the entire bible, once you see this, resoudingly teaches it….from Genesis to Revelation. Even Jesus, in his High Priestly prayer in John 17 clearly tells us why he is dying and what God is up to…God’s own glory.
    I heard one of my professors say 30 years ago that you cannot understand John Calvin unless you understand that the foundation and pinnacle of his theology is not predestination or sovereignty or even the “Docrtines of Grace” (the famous five points), but the glory of God. And once a culture loses sight of that, theology begins to lose its coherence and as the glory of God begins to fade then too does the meaning of the cross, the meaning of wrath, the beauty of the gospel, the reason for hell and the promise of a new creation.
    Good post.
    thanks!

  5. Phil S.

    05. Apr, 2011

    Another excellent and memorable post! You cannot come away from even a casual reading of Scripture — both in Old and New Testaments — without seeing that God’s primary narrative in the story of redemption is the revelation and triumph of His glory. His desire and provision is for us to respond with humble faith, passionate worship, and selfless service.

  6. Vickey Close

    06. Apr, 2011

    Are you on face book? I would like to receive your messages if I can. I so enjoyed todays message , glad to meet you>

  7. Lowell Peterson

    06. Apr, 2011

    Poor Bell. Judging from what I have seen and read of the fellow, he is a good-hearted soul. Gentle, loving in a sentimental sort of way. Good intentions, no doubt. But he has made one of the most fundamental of errors - he redefines God in terms of his own sense of what it means to be good - or to be all-powerful, for that matter. He has also proved an important point in any kind apologetic or polemic - you cannot possibly get to a right answer if you start with a wrong question! “Does God get what God wants?” I’m sorry, Tim, but I don’t agree that is a good question because it is built on the bluntly stupid premise that God WANTS anything. He does not. At least not in the way any human understands “want.” He doesn’t lack for anything; He isn’t frustrated over anything He doesn’t have. The hyper-Calvinist is correct that God has it in his power to pre-ordain and cause everything to happen in a pre-determined way, but it is the essence of God’s greatness not to do that. It violates the character of His glory to force His way on everybody else - and guess what, Rob, doing that is not love.

  8. Tim Stoner

    07. Apr, 2011

    I think it is fair to take God’s words about Himself and use them (though with some care). God does claim to want all to be saved. He does say He does not want anyone to perish. He says is He looking for worshipers who will worship Him rightly. He says He has come looking to find the lost. Over and over He told Israel that He wanted them desperately to repent. So, this gives us ground to ask what does God want. While He does not have any lack and does not need our love. (He is fully satisfied in the trinitarian “dance” that the Church Father called the perichoresis.) On the level of creatures who are icons of God I think it is still fair to ask ourselves what are God’s DESIRES, given that His DECREES are essentially hidden behind a veil of transcendent mystery.

  9. Tim Stoner

    07. Apr, 2011

    I will friend request you and that should do it. I think that’s how it’s supposed to work.

  10. Tim Stoner

    07. Apr, 2011

    Couldn’t have said it better. You sound like you could be my brother, or something. Oh, yeah, you are!

    Thanks bro.

  11. Spencer

    10. Apr, 2011

    Great piece Tim! Certainly thoughtful and insightful, as several have mentioned.

    I sent you an email with a more detailed response; here is one I think can be brought up briefly. Given the distinction between desires and decrees, what is to be made of Isaiah 45:21-24 (NASB)?

    “And there is no other God besides Me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none except Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other. I have sworn by Myself, the word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness and will not turn back, that to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance. They will say of Me, ‘Only in the LORD are righteousness and strength.’ Men will come to Him, and all who were angry at Him will be put to shame.”

    Here we have God swearing on His own Person, staking His own reputation on a word that cannot be revoked — that “to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.” Of course, some are inclined to see this as conquered subjects submitting to a greater power instead of willing converts. But notice: those submitting to YHWH are swearing allegiance to Him, and not just saying, “You win.” They are joining His side. Furthermore, they are acknowledging not only His Lordship but also His goodness and righteousness. The demons believe… and tremble. But do they acknowledge that “only in the Lord are righteousness and strength”? Of course, in verse 22 we see that “all the ends of the earth” must first “turn to Me” to be saved. Without question, this is a prerequisite that is stipulated over and over in Scripture. But I remain confused why we feel the need to force that all-important choice within the confines of our lifetime. I can find extraordinarily little Scriptural support for that despite asking many people.

    This passage is stated like a decree, and it seems to indicate that all will eventually be saved. Finally, it lines up with all that the rest of the Bible says about God’s “unfailing” (Ex 15:13, Isa 54:10, etc.), “everlasting” (Jer 31:3), and merciful (Neh 13:22, Ps 25:6) love; how He “delights to show mercy” (Mic 7:18), how He is “compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in lovingkindness” (Ex 34:6), how He “will not always accuse, nor will He harbor His anger forever” (Ps 103:8-9, c.f. Isa 57:16), how He will “never leave [us] nor forsake [us]” (Deut 31:6,8). I like that Bell has begun the discussion among Christians to address this tension, and I appreciate Tim for continuing it!

  12. Tim Stoner

    10. Apr, 2011

    Spencer, the really big question you asked in your email is: “How is a loving and good God glorified through the endless punitive torture of billions of souls?” Maybe others may care to wade in on it also.
    But so that you know, I love your questions. And I love how you ask them. I will not be able to do your latest justice (important word in this particular context) right yet. I am in the middle of several things and it merits more than a passing response. Maybe you will force me to write something longer, later. Stay tuned. But do feel free to write as much as the Spirit may lead. I will read, though may not get to it immediately. You pose the tough ones. Thanks.

  13. Becky N.

    20. Apr, 2011

    To think that out of God’s holy, inexplicable love for Himself, He chose to create us and enable us to love Him back (as pitiful and imperfect as that love is) is amazing and too wonderful for words.

    Thanks Tim for this awesome description of our God.

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